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		<title>By: Nic Darling</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E. Whitaker Lee - I couldn&#039;t agree more, and I guess I was thinking increased efficiency and decreased use when I mentioned conservation. Thanks for the clarification.

Nathan H. - I am a strong believer in the pursuit of alternative energy as a part of our effort to preserve the planet as we know it. However, I am concerned that this segment of our efforts receives undue attention. No matter what advances are made in alternative energy, a reduction of energy use and increased efficiency will be vital to our eventual success. That said, I agree . . . run like hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E. Whitaker Lee &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree more, and I guess I was thinking increased efficiency and decreased use when I mentioned conservation. Thanks for the clarification.</p>
<p>Nathan H. &#8211; I am a strong believer in the pursuit of alternative energy as a part of our effort to preserve the planet as we know it. However, I am concerned that this segment of our efforts receives undue attention. No matter what advances are made in alternative energy, a reduction of energy use and increased efficiency will be vital to our eventual success. That said, I agree . . . run like hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan H</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you&#039;re saying is valuable &amp; you are probably right, however I also want to note a couple of things I&#039;ve run across in my web wanderings recently --

I&#039;ve been watching videos on this site: http://www.ted.com/ -- it&#039;s kind of an Al Gore / Ted Branson / Jane Goodall / Bono kind of site --

&amp; one speaker, I forget his name, mentioned the huge potential of geothermal, as compared with the miniscule amount spent on researching it by the Bush regime;

&amp; another speaker, Ray Kurzweil, was describing the huge potential of nanotechnology which might one day harvest solar energy.

I would add that as our nature is getting destroyed, it is getting transformed into higher and higher technology, which, as the guy who wrote &quot;Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance&quot; reminded us, also has Buddha-nature.

I could be quite wrong about this, but I&#039;m reminded of the coyote / roadrunner cartoons: there are two possible reactions when you find yourself up in the air above a canyon: look down and fall as the coyote does, or continue to run like hell until you reach the other side as the roadrunner does.

I write this as a believer in the consciousness of nature, a mourner of whales, and a rememberer of stories: Prometheus stealing fire and giving it to us; Odin hanging upside-down from a tree for nine nights until the runes came to him; and Wiwati, the green man of Secoya legend, simply speaking his name, once, to create the entire Amazon rainforest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#8217;re saying is valuable &amp; you are probably right, however I also want to note a couple of things I&#8217;ve run across in my web wanderings recently &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching videos on this site: <a href="http://www.ted.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/</a> &#8212; it&#8217;s kind of an Al Gore / Ted Branson / Jane Goodall / Bono kind of site &#8211;</p>
<p>&amp; one speaker, I forget his name, mentioned the huge potential of geothermal, as compared with the miniscule amount spent on researching it by the Bush regime;</p>
<p>&amp; another speaker, Ray Kurzweil, was describing the huge potential of nanotechnology which might one day harvest solar energy.</p>
<p>I would add that as our nature is getting destroyed, it is getting transformed into higher and higher technology, which, as the guy who wrote &#8220;Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance&#8221; reminded us, also has Buddha-nature.</p>
<p>I could be quite wrong about this, but I&#8217;m reminded of the coyote / roadrunner cartoons: there are two possible reactions when you find yourself up in the air above a canyon: look down and fall as the coyote does, or continue to run like hell until you reach the other side as the roadrunner does.</p>
<p>I write this as a believer in the consciousness of nature, a mourner of whales, and a rememberer of stories: Prometheus stealing fire and giving it to us; Odin hanging upside-down from a tree for nine nights until the runes came to him; and Wiwati, the green man of Secoya legend, simply speaking his name, once, to create the entire Amazon rainforest.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Whitaker Lee</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Whitaker Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point is well taken, Nic. There is no silver bullet for creating the type of change we need. I do want to point out that you made no mention of the third major tool in our tool box: energy efficiency. Conservation will be necessary, and it is a sacrifice that everyone will be forced to make at some point. Energy efficiency is currently the &#039;cheapest&#039; source of renewable energy and another way to shrink the pie. Most importantly, I see it as a first step in creating energy-conscious consumers. It&#039;s far easier to tell people to start conserving energy when you&#039;ve proven the benefits of being efficient with it. Efficiency brings allies to our side, because it&#039;s pragmatic and cost-saving, and it gets people in the mindset of thinking less can be more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point is well taken, Nic. There is no silver bullet for creating the type of change we need. I do want to point out that you made no mention of the third major tool in our tool box: energy efficiency. Conservation will be necessary, and it is a sacrifice that everyone will be forced to make at some point. Energy efficiency is currently the &#8216;cheapest&#8217; source of renewable energy and another way to shrink the pie. Most importantly, I see it as a first step in creating energy-conscious consumers. It&#8217;s far easier to tell people to start conserving energy when you&#8217;ve proven the benefits of being efficient with it. Efficiency brings allies to our side, because it&#8217;s pragmatic and cost-saving, and it gets people in the mindset of thinking less can be more.</p>
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		<title>By: PV Solar Panel Quote for 100K House &#124; 100khouse.com</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>PV Solar Panel Quote for 100K House &#124; 100khouse.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To think that just a few months ago, I thought that offering a PV upgrade option to convert an all-electric home to a zero energy home would be feasible.  We are using gas now for both water and space heating and have eliminated A/C and we still can&#8217;t come close. We wouldn&#8217;t even have enough room on the roof to fit enough solar panels to make it zero energy. This is a bit sobering and a testament to the fact that renewable energy is not the answer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To think that just a few months ago, I thought that offering a PV upgrade option to convert an all-electric home to a zero energy home would be feasible.  We are using gas now for both water and space heating and have eliminated A/C and we still can&#8217;t come close. We wouldn&#8217;t even have enough room on the roof to fit enough solar panels to make it zero energy. This is a bit sobering and a testament to the fact that renewable energy is not the answer. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nic Darling</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I am unable to disagree with you Lucy. Major change is seldom a comfortable, gradual thing. Historically it has often required catastrophic events to perpetrate significant cultural shifts.

Our economic system demands constant growth. Even stasis isn&#039;t enough, let alone decreased consumption. But, perhaps there is hope in a consumer shift? Maybe a move away from material consumption toward information consumption or something of the sort? A decrease in the consumption of goods offset by an increase in the consumption of services?

Probably not, but it is nice to have hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I am unable to disagree with you Lucy. Major change is seldom a comfortable, gradual thing. Historically it has often required catastrophic events to perpetrate significant cultural shifts.</p>
<p>Our economic system demands constant growth. Even stasis isn&#8217;t enough, let alone decreased consumption. But, perhaps there is hope in a consumer shift? Maybe a move away from material consumption toward information consumption or something of the sort? A decrease in the consumption of goods offset by an increase in the consumption of services?</p>
<p>Probably not, but it is nice to have hope.</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s bad for business but...we also have to start thinking about the decline of consumerism.  The consumption of everything we consume, be it nature made or man made must be reduced.  We all need to learn to live on less, wasting nothing.  It&#039;s very possible but something very bad probably has to happen before it hits home in a big enough way to change the thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s bad for business but&#8230;we also have to start thinking about the decline of consumerism.  The consumption of everything we consume, be it nature made or man made must be reduced.  We all need to learn to live on less, wasting nothing.  It&#8217;s very possible but something very bad probably has to happen before it hits home in a big enough way to change the thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic Darling</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Dave. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was actually reading these guest posts.

I agree. The answer definitely isn&#039;t either/or, but I feel that conservation needs to receive far greater weight in policy and promotion than it currently does. Surfing the news and listening to politicians one would think that salvation lies in renewable fuel.

&quot;The Party&quot; is an apt metaphor, and I may steal it for future conversations. Some hangover indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Dave. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was actually reading these guest posts.</p>
<p>I agree. The answer definitely isn&#8217;t either/or, but I feel that conservation needs to receive far greater weight in policy and promotion than it currently does. Surfing the news and listening to politicians one would think that salvation lies in renewable fuel.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Party&#8221; is an apt metaphor, and I may steal it for future conversations. Some hangover indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this. Of course, as Chad&#039;s comment suggests, it isn&#039;t strictly an either/or proposition - renewable energy can and should be combined with conservation at the micro level, with rooftop solar collectors, groundwater heat exchangers, and the like. But the public discourse assumes that we should continue to have a centralized energy system, and even more, that THE PARTY MUST GO ON. Because at some subconscious level, we all know that the fossil fuled economy is unsustainable, and that we&#039;re going to have a hell of hangover when it&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this. Of course, as Chad&#8217;s comment suggests, it isn&#8217;t strictly an either/or proposition &#8211; renewable energy can and should be combined with conservation at the micro level, with rooftop solar collectors, groundwater heat exchangers, and the like. But the public discourse assumes that we should continue to have a centralized energy system, and even more, that THE PARTY MUST GO ON. Because at some subconscious level, we all know that the fossil fuled economy is unsustainable, and that we&#8217;re going to have a hell of hangover when it&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://postgreen.com/2008/05/renewable-energy-is-not-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post that also speaks to our philosophy towards the homes we are designing. When people ask about our green homes, often the first thing they ask is if we will have solar panels?

The biggest impact towards the energy consumption of our homes is to cut the size in half of the average US new home being built today. The second biggest impact is then regarding the building envelope which reduces the demand on both heating and cooling. This also is not sexy and relatively uninteresting to the average consumer not truly interested in green building.

Solar, wind and green roofs will often be the last features considered for postgreen homes as they are more flashy and less cost effective measures in green building that are available to reduce energy consumption.

That chart is a little depressing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post that also speaks to our philosophy towards the homes we are designing. When people ask about our green homes, often the first thing they ask is if we will have solar panels?</p>
<p>The biggest impact towards the energy consumption of our homes is to cut the size in half of the average US new home being built today. The second biggest impact is then regarding the building envelope which reduces the demand on both heating and cooling. This also is not sexy and relatively uninteresting to the average consumer not truly interested in green building.</p>
<p>Solar, wind and green roofs will often be the last features considered for postgreen homes as they are more flashy and less cost effective measures in green building that are available to reduce energy consumption.</p>
<p>That chart is a little depressing&#8230;</p>
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